Cherie Sweeney eventually removes post after social uproar

Update on from last entry post: The abuse of Cherie Sweeney and her fake Charity Org, NARK.

 

There was no apology from Cherie Sweeney for instigating a hate campaign due to her post on the page, directing social abuse being hurled toward a woman she didn’t know or the factual circumstances that had taken place.  This women had not been charged or arrested for anything, and the Police had already posted on her post thread to inform the public. Interesting enough Cherie and her fake Org NARK are not mentioned in this article. However Cherie still portrays to the public that NARK is a real Org.

News item from Stuff.co.nz News:

Baby briefly unattended at KFC

 Last updated 18:25 04/12/2014

Baby briefly unattended at KFC

A Hastings mother will be referred to Child, Youth and Family after a baby boy was left briefly unattended at a fast-food outlet.

Sergeant Glen Yule said the mother and child arrived at the Hastings KFC restaurant with the baby’s grandmother at 12.30pm on Wednesday. The adults began to argue and left the store.
The child was in a baby capsule, which the mother put on the floor before following the grandmother into the car park.

The pair argued for a few minutes and the mother then returned for her baby.
By this time, concerned customers had picked up the child to care for it, and refused to give it back to its mother, Yule said.
“There was some confusion in the store about the mother’s intentions, and some customers became concerned and took it upon themselves to keep the baby safe.

“The mother made some unfortunate comments that may have been misconstrued.”
Fellow customer Shelly Bartlett said she could not believe the mother left her child, even for a minutes. “She didn’t even buy any food, just dumped the baby and left.
“I heard her say she didn’t even want him.”

The police were called and the boy was returned to the mother and grandmother’s care. As was normal practice, a referral would be made to Child, Youth and Family, Yule said.

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Since our last post (Link here), the following update has been posted on Cherie Sweeney’s Stop death and abuse of children’s Facebook page. Link here:

Her previous post was removed and this is the new post:

Dated 4/12/2014

STOP Death and Abuse of our Children

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Thank you to all our community people who spoke up and have helped actioned this mummy to get support. Without your concerns we would not have been able to awhi and get your voices heard.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/…/638…/Baby-briefly-unattended-at-KFC

Baby unattended at KFC

A Hastings mother will be referred to Child, Youth and Family after a baby boy was left briefly unattended at a fast-food outlet.

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  Mahara Tahuhu I'm pleased to see you've removed the misleading post alleging the baby was abandoned. Well done for taking this step.
  I only hope you can now make things right by acknowledging on this page that the previous post was misleading and that it caused unnecessary aded distress and harm to the mother, her whanau and community. A simple retraction can do wonders. I sincerely hope you'll make the positive choice to follow up the removal of the aforementioned post with this second action.

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  STOP Death and Abuse of our Children Retract what? We will continue to support our community members who have concerns for our kids. This is what NARK does. Support those who speak up. The kaupapa is to empower and encourage them to whakamanahia them.

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  Mahara Tahuhu Why, retract your allegation that the woman 'abandoned' the baby, of course. Or did you forget it (and that inflammatory screenshot) immediately once you'd deleted the OP?
  I made several salient points in my last comment under that post in regards to the damage social media can do when folks are given incorrect or inaccurate information and the dangers of induly influencing public opinion. I do hope you read and considered them before you deleted the post using the word 'abandoned' with the accompanying screenshot which was both damning and inflammatory (and seemingly an inaccurate version of events now that we have more information).
  Considering your continued refusal to acknowledge that you were a bit hasty and unwise in your choice of material when you posted your OP though, I suspect you didn't consider in great depth what I wrote previously - assuming you read it at all.

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  STOP Death and Abuse of our Children Have you had a talk to anyone involved? They are sticking by their korero & know facts. I am not going to go on but simply there were multiple concerns from different people and they were justified. The mum in question is now receiving the urgent help she requires. Respect your opinion but doesnt mean I agree with all you say.

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  Mahara Tahuhu As previously stated, you did use the word 'abandoned' and the screenshot you put up accused this mother of trying to drive away from the location. It also said there were two people with the mother but the police summary of events said she was accompanied only by her own mother, with whom she was arguing.
  There is a world of difference between two people arguing in a car park and three people getting in a car and trying to drive off - surely you agree with that, at least? Therefore surely you can appreciate that regardless of your good intentions you used words and evidence that were inaccurate. As a result this woman was abused and vilified on social media. Rationalise your aims any way you like, but your choices didn't show her you supported her. Conversely, it demonised her. You really, really need to acknowledge this. I feel it's important.
  How much you believe of the witness accounts is irrelevant (and as I said in earlier posts, witness accounts are not 100% reliable, emotion is contagious and there are many factors which can influence their recollection whether directly or indirectly - if you like I can do a quick hunt for examples as psychological research has examined this behaviour).
  The relevant point is that inaccurate information was posted publicly on social media. It was shared and seen by a great deal of people who then formed an opinion based on the (inaccurate) information they read. That is what I'm referring to when I encourage you to retract your original accusation.

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  Mahara Tahuhu Additionally, an impartial third party who does not personally know any of those involved and has not been influenced by emotionally driven witness account is in an excellent position to critically analyse the consequences of posts like the original, hence why I'm continuing to reiterate my points.

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  Rhiannon Victoria Exactly as I had suspected, people jumping to conclusions, flinging accusations, demanding they don't give the baby back. All based on one persons account. I hate how people are so quick to judge in these situations without even knowing the facts! Whats gives us the right to be judge n jury...? I hope ya'll dont ever have to be in a situation like that... :/

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  STOP Death and Abuse of our Children The information NARK has was based on several peoples account not just 1. Agree re not being Judge & Jury

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  Jayden Langley Finally some positive comments. This is my family and they amount of negative, hurting comments and false information that were said was just inappropriate. I wasn't there but reading all the comments about my mum especially was hurting but that FB for yah.

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  Claire Bryant I think this had been blown out of proportion big time hope baby and mum are ok. It's not easy being a parent. I don't think what she did is right but it has been made into a big drama

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  Keri Herd For god sake I fight with my husband does that mean that mychildren are unsafe?? no way, the fact this mum moved it away from her child is commendable her baby was not in any emmediate danger and the mum returned another case of wasting cyf time when there are children that are getting beaten and murdered. I feel sorry for the mum and I think this whole welldone for getting your voices heard when not one person on this site was there yet you bullied the authorities into setting cyfs on this mum!!!

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  Nicola Hanna I'm confused. If the link to the article is correct a mother still walked out of a shop purposefully leaving her baby behind. For whatever reason this isn't and never would be okay in any circumstance. I'm glad she had been referred to CYFS and hope she can get the support and assistance she needs to be a better parent.

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The abuse of Cherie Sweeney and her fake Charity Org, NARK.

Dated on the 3 December 2014....

Cherie Sweeney posted on her "fake Org" page a status about an incident concerning a baby being left on the floor at K.F.C in Hawkes bay.  The problem with this is why post something that is very much condemning persons when she has had no proof of what actually happened. Despite people being shocked at this post status, she still tries to justify herself.  Why does she still deceive the public into portraying her Org is real?

 Please read the following for your information.

This is in regards to an incident at K.F.C Hastings. Article from Hawkes bay today. Link is here

Baby left on floor of Hastings KFC

7:26 PM Thursday Dec 4, 2014 1 comment

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The woman left the 6-month-old baby on the floor of KFC. Photo / File

A Hastings woman has been referred to Child, Youth and Family after leaving her 6-month-old baby on the floor of a KFC restaurant yesterday.

The woman arrived with her mother just after 12.30pm, but they soon started arguing. The heated debate then spilled to a carpark and the child was left inside a capsule on the ground for a matter of minutes.

Outraged members of public cared for the baby and refused to return him to his mother when she stormed back into the Hastings eatery,

"There was some confusion in the store about the mother's intentions and some customers became concerned and took it upon themselves to keep the baby safe," Sergeant Glen Yule said.

"The mother made some unfortunate comments that may have been misconstrued."
After assessing the situation, police were satisfied the baby was not in any danger and made a referral to Child, Youth and Family regarding the incident.

 

Cherie Sweeney, founder and volunteer of an organisation called Nation of Advocates for the Rights of Children, had been contacted by "irate" witnesses who were shocked that nothing more was done.

"She was more interested in having a domestic dispute which seriously put a child at risk," Ms Sweeney said.

- Hawkes Bay Today

 

 

Below is a status post from Cherie Sweeneys, 'fake Org' facebook page: STOP Death and Abuse of our Children. Link Here:

STOP Death and Abuse of our Children

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VERY DISTURBING Baby abandoned at KFC Hastings. Police were rung and gave baby back to the Mum who left him. Do you think Police should have done more? I.e. called CYFs first before they handed baby back ? — feeling confused with Tansy Koha and 2 others at Hastings Kfc.

 

 

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Hawke's Bay Police

Hi everyone, there has obviously been a lot of rumour and misinformation circulated about this incident. Here are the facts:

A Hastings mother came into the shop yesterday with her mother and carrying her six-month-old son in a baby capsule.  An argument then developed between the two women and they left the store. The mother placed the baby on the shop floor before following her mother out into the carpark. The pair continued arguing for a few minutes and the mother then came back into the shop to pick up her baby.

 

By this time, concerned customers had picked up the baby and were caring for it in the shop and would not give it back to the mother. The mother then rang police to say that some “Good Samaritans” had her baby and would not give it back to her. Police arrived and the baby was returned to the mother.

There was some confusion in the store about the mother’s intentions and some customers became concerned and took it upon themselves to keep the baby safe. The mother made some unfortunate comments that may have been misconstrued. After talking to the mother of the baby and the grandmother, police were satisfied the baby was in no danger and he was returned to them. As per normal practice, a referral will be made to Child, Youth and Family regarding the incident. We hope this clears it up for everyone.

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  Julie Thompson Trial by Facebook doesn't help anyone. Glad the police are being sensible and assume CYFS will be also. Separating mothers and babies is a silly idea if you ask me.

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  STOP Death and Abuse of our Children Hi there, NARK Founder has spoken to Police Officer Mark Pettrigrew as we had concerns after an informant alerted us to this situation. He has informed us that Police would be treating this case with a Higher Priority than he had previously, We understand that there is a Mandate for Police to notify Child Youth and Family and feel that an on call crisis social worker should have been called to diffuse the situation. We also feel that the not taking of statements from witnesses was not good as these are valuable in the safety of our children. A baby cannot speak up for himself. NARK would like Hastings Police to collect Camera footage and fully investigate this matter, We at NARK feel that we will not let these kinds of incidences slide under a mat. Family Violence in any form be it with a partner or as in this situation a Mum and grandmother are a serious issue for all our children.Like ·ADMIN - STOP Death and Abuse of our Children

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  STOP Death and Abuse of our Children We also do not agree with seperating Mothers and Children but we would like to see the right kinds of supports for this Mum and baby

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  Amanda McDonough Give it up NARK. You need to apologize to that mother.

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  Amanda McDonough The way you have behaved on Facebook is far more abusive than a mother placing a baby down in a shop.

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  STOP Death and Abuse of our Children I have not passed Judgement nor abused this mother and the facebook info is from the witnesses who requested my help to resolve this.

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  STOP Death and Abuse of our Children I do feel that Family Violence (including verbal physical and mental abuse) is a serious issue and that it does not just happen in partners it also happens to parents, and grandparents.

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  Amanda McDonough Stop justifying your bad behavior. You could have helped this mum or looked into this without smearing it on Facebook! No matter how thin the pancake is, it always has two sides.

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  STOP Death and Abuse of our Children The 3 witnesses aka "good samaritans" also tried to help her as did her mother (their statements) yet they were abused. This Mum has been offered help and support all of which may not have happened without this post.

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  Sae-Charn Staples-Tiopira Yeah what's this ?

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  Amanda McDonough Of course they were abused! They wouldn't give her baby back! They did nothing wrong but it's a highly emotional situation! Jeeez it must be really hard being so damn perfect!

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  Sae-Charn Staples-Tiopira How do I send photos? The police are wrong because I have evidence frm renee abandon the baby

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  Sae-Charn Staples-Tiopira She told me

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  Jimi Harris For starters if u arguing or even having a full on scrap u don't leave a little infant anywhere fuckin bullshit story bitch should go to court and the baby should be given to people who will take care of it properly

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  Christina Turner Considering the babies being abandoned in aussie if this was actually tru that the kid was abandoned then it would be on the news not just a facebook page

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  STOP Death and Abuse of our Children Hi there although it started as a facebook status and I was informed by a witness this is a confirmed incident. Police and Restaurant Brands general manager are all aware of incident I will follow up with CYFs team in morning Media are also investigating Thanks

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  Keri Herd Maybe this confirmed incident is not quite true maybe they actually forgot the baby for whatever reason I doubt 3 woman got out of a car walked together to drop the baby by the door then walked back to a car together and drove off?? And really why would they abandon a baby in a busy KFC restraunt during the day I don't think someone wanting abandon a baby would be that silly I think yes there was an incident but that your whiteness is full of shit no police man in their right mind would just hand a baby back that had been adandoned they legally can't if there is concern even the slightest for a child they must call cyps

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  STOP Death and Abuse of our Children I guess the security cameras footage will tell the whole story and Police by law must hand a child to its natural guardians I am following up with the constable involved to make sure a notification went in and I am also following up with CYFs

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  STOP Death and Abuse of our Children I am also speaking to the women who rescued the baby

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  STOP Death and Abuse of our Children Ive been informed that Police are required to hand a child to its natural guardian or legal guardian unless they have physical evidence, considering they are yet to sort through camera footage I guess they cant take hearsay SAD thing is Police response was very desensitised, "this kinda thing happens all the time" Personally I feel that a social worker from CYFs crisis team should have been physically involved to assess the risk to the baby

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  STOP Death and Abuse of our Children I have spoken with CYFs crisis team in Hastings and they are treating it as Urgent Priority, They are looking at what went wrong with Police in this incident and the Constable should be held accountable for not following through on the mandate to contact CYFs social worker. This mandate is well known by Police

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  Emma Sayle Nobody nos what was going on in her head at that moment the lady obviously needs help there are some very nasty judgemental people on here no its not right but neither is living with a mental illness n feeling totally alone that she has had to do this!!! Shame on you all for making that judgement in your perfect lifes!!!

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  Shayna Sullivan Hold on I can totally understand that maybe she could be suffering from something but why did her mum and sister allow her to leave her baby there....if in your type of world that is acceptable then you need to be checked her child was at multiple risks! Yes she does need help hence why cyfs should have been involved as it's obvious she needs professional help for her situation. People are very passionate about children, that is nothing to be ashamed of!

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  STOP Death and Abuse of our Children People may seem judgemental but they are also very upset, NZ average of Child Deaths by Non Accidental Injury are 1 dying every 5 weeks

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  STOP Death and Abuse of our Children The mum was also with her own mum and sister when she did this so my concern is that she was not alone when she did this and it shows absolutely no family support to help her

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  Ngaire Foote In NZ we all need to remain child focused so that our children are protected...Iam so enjoying National Advocates...Iam so please we have such strength watching out for our babies...child focused and all will be well for out most vulnerable

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  STOP Death and Abuse of our Children I have an update to this situation, from the Uncle
  

  
  

  

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  Danielle PJ Autumn Randell My cousins were the ones who chased after them with their baby and the mother said to them keep him kill him now if all 3 are suffering from a mental illness because they all left then id understand but no this is discusting

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  Conna Lilly For me, no matter who was abusing who or who was trying to escape this supposed abuse, or whatever other playground antics were taking place between the adults in this situation, you don't leave a baby alone for any period of time in a public place. Period.

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  Jules Buri Whats a shame as that she obviously doesnt have enough support. How is slagging her off, ever going to help anyone grow? Children need their parents, and parents needs support and education. Its about breaking the cycle not judging others.

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  Inger Kite If she doesn't have the support of her mother OR her sister then maybe the baby is better off in care as she must be quite unwell!! In fact I think the entire family need help!!

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  Jules Buri Hence the concept of a 'cycle' if its how she's be brought up, its possible she doesnt know better, or doesnt think there is other options. Perhaps short term care is best while the mother can be supported and educated. My point is, just taking babies off people doesnt help. :-)

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  Sandy Burndred Pope so her mother and sister let her leave her baby there?

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  STOP Death and Abuse of our Children yes I find that very disturbing that they let her do that

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  Sandy Burndred Pope ! the mum by herself I can understand. this I cant

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  Jayden Langley NO FALSE, She tried to get away from Renee abusing her so she went to her car. Renee followed And Renee left her child behind and she was telling her mum to leave which she wouldn't leave. The mum and younger sister are innocent in all this.

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  STOP Death and Abuse of our Children Tansy Koha anei te korero

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  Peach Metekingi Roxy Tekira IF YOU ARE THE MOTHER TO THIS BABY PLEASE PM ME , I AM MORE THAN HAPPY TO HAVE HIM YOU CAN KEEP YOUR BENEFIT I JUST WANT HIM I HAVE PLENTY OF ROOM AT MY HOUSE .....NO HATE

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  STOP Death and Abuse of our Children Bless you Roxy. You are so caring

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  Julie Thompson Um, there's this little thing called guardianship. It gets decided by the family court judge

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  STOP Death and Abuse of our Children Agree but she means well. Big hearted

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  Sarah C Aranui That is not the case u don't know her so mind ur own buisness peach.

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  Ngaire Foote Kind of weird they would just hand baby back....little more to the story I would say

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  STOP Death and Abuse of our Children Police are required to hand a child to its natural guardian or legal guardian unless they have evidence, considering they are yet to sort through camera footage I guess they cant take hearsay SAD thing is Police response was very desensitised, "this kinda thing happens all the time" Personally I feel that a social worker from CYFs crisis team should have been physically involved to assess the risk to the baby

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  Ngaire Foote That certainly would have made more sense...our babies certainly need strong voices to advocate for them.

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  STOP Death and Abuse of our Children I have spoken with CYFs crisis team in Hastings and they are treating it as Urgent Priority, They are holding the constable accountable for not following through on the mandate to contact CYFs social worker

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  Mel Lee family pressure to abandon followed by remorse and misguided possession of personal belongings?

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  STOP Death and Abuse of our Children :-(

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  STOP Death and Abuse of our Children Big Hugs to Stacey Nuku, Leah Hawkins and Livvy N Bman for rescuing this baby xoxo <3 span="">

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  Anya Raupunga gud on dem

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  Amanda McDonough I guess hearsay and rumors are more closely related than originally thought. There is no way the police or cyfs would have told you any private information unless you had jurisdiction to gain it. If you had jurisdiction you would not be allowed to pass it on or put it on Facebook. So not only have you made this lady miserable and put her in danger, you have done so by misleading the public with your comments about being in contact with police and cyfs and having information verified. I hope the police do get involved, and shut you down before you destroy someone elses life.

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  STOP Death and Abuse of our Children You can confirm contact if you like with Police. I spoke directly to the officer involved. There is no misleading here and the information shared is based on public interest the same reason they inform media when media ask questions. My 3 main questions to Police were 1, Have they contacted CYFs as per their mandate 2, Why were witness statements not taken, and 3 what is their priority on the case.

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  Amanda McDonough It's only public interest because of trolling. Kinda like a naked celebrity. .. just because it's supposedly 'public interest' doesn't make it moral or correct. Why can't you just swallow your pride and apologize? You were wrong, you sharing this in social media was a very poor judgment call and had led to this young lady being bullied and abused - the very things you claim to stand against!

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  Amanda McDonough Here's something you might like to think about. That mother made a poor judgement call. Perhaps she thought, at the time that she was doing the right thing but it backfired... sound familiar? All mothers make mistakes. We all get stressed out and we all lose our cool and yell. We don't all have to endure public humiliation at the hands of someone who wasn't even there. You should be helping this mum up in a genuine way - ie before you ripped her reputation to shreds for all to see. SHAME ON YOU.
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  STOP Death and Abuse of our Children Can you point out exactly where this page "ripped" her rep to shreds, if anything our concern was that Police had not had an on call social worker attend

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  STOP Death and Abuse of our Children and I mean by our org The community opinion is just that Opinion

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  Amanda McDonough I can't block you. Please block me, I don't want to see anymore of this. Nae nae hold your head up and learn from this experience. Don't let it stop you from living your life. We all make mistakes, it's called being human. I think you will find there are more people on your side then you think.

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  Amanda McDonough Has this all been confirmed by the police because if not it's just hearsay. Hearsay and rumors are closely related. Just saying.

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  Jayden Langley Hi, Some of it is true, But some is been seen a different way to what actually was going on. But like usual people jump to conclusions without knowing the whole story that unfolded that day. I know the actual full story but that don't matter as people don't give a Shit about it and they just say what they seen/ heard from there point of view.

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  STOP Death and Abuse of our Children Hi Amanda McDonough, Police and Cyfs are both involved and see this as a high priority to resolve. Staff at KFC and management are all also involved as camera footage has been obtained. Media are also involved, Comments relating to confirmation are all posted above

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  STOP Death and Abuse of our Children The witnesses as you can expect are very emotional about this, Police cant have emotion in cases like this they have a job to do, and CYFs are looking for Rennae as they are very concerned for baby

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  STOP Death and Abuse of our Children You also have to remember Jayden that you have your version as you were not actually there, and the witnesses have theirs. No hate just making a point - Shellz

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  Jayden Langley That's true I was not there of course. But I trust my mums word 100% rather than someone elses on here that has twisted what happened or say what they think they saw/ heard and love stirring SHIT.

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  Tansy Koha I so feel for you Jayden, what an ugly mess Renee has put you all through, you have the most beautiful family! Headup whanau, RENEE UR AN EGG!

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  Dinelle Saunders Agree ^^but maybe some kind of assessment should've been done - maybe it is?

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  STOP Death and Abuse of our Children I am following up with CYFs in Napier office and am awaiting a call back from Police

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  Dinelle Saunders Wish all cases had someone to chase them up. Awesome :)

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  STOP Death and Abuse of our Children Description of baby from eye witness stated that baby was pale and looked weak, possibly dehydrated

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  Mahara Tahuhu Are these witnesses all qualified medical professionals and so in a place to accurately make this assessment?

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  STOP Death and Abuse of our Children 1 is a registered midwife

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  Livvy N Bman it was clear that their intention for being at KFC was to get rid of baby. his name is Kanye. gorgeous little man, i swear!

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  STOP Death and Abuse of our Children Bless you for rescuing baby Livvy N Bman

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  Jayden Langley Nope info False again.............

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  Mahara Tahuhu Sounds like you folks have let emotions cloud your good judgement. Regardless of what actually happened, it is wholly inappropriate and unprofessional to share the information from the 'informant' and to then go digging for statements from others who may have been there. That is the job of police (and CYFS if they choose to undertake this action) NOT any civilian organisation, however well-intentioned their actions may be.
  
  You're all about minimising harm and risk, right? And yet all you've done is spread hysteria and therefore increased the liklihood of risk and harm to someone. You guys aren't a family court judge or even a jury panel.
  You need to retract this post and apologise to the woman for endagering her well-being and safety and for comprimising any future investigations by swaying public opinion.
  
  Remember, you weren't there either and witness statements are rarely 100% reliable or accurate. Witnesses can be influenced (without even realising it) into recalling innacurately the chain of events, so what they do say needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Surely as a professional organisation you would know this and not let your emotions cause you to be reactive and cloud your judgement? You've tarnished your previously good work and conduct with your choice, and it's really quite disappointing.

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  STOP Death and Abuse of our Children Kiaora e hoa , I can agree with some of your comment but I was contacted by 11 different people over this incident and as you may well be aware I do not sit back and do nothing. I get involved, I did not go digging for statements as this information I have are from messages that were sent to me before post was made. I contacted CYFs and I followed up with Police as concerns from public should be followed up. Thank you for your korero

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Mahara Tahuhu Ok, so two more questions.
Firstly, did these 11 witnesses contact you individually and independently of their own volition or were they influenced, encouraged, directed or otherwise guided in the direction of your contact information? Did any of them collaborate or have discussions amongst themselves prior to contacting you?
Unless they did in fact do their own research and come to you individually and independently of each other with no influence from any third parties the validity and accuracy of some or all of those statements could be comprimised.
At any rate, pending any future investigations by the police or cyps this should not have been publicly posted. If you had genuine concerns (which I do belive you had) it would have been a far better choice to contact these agencies directly and to encourage these witnesses to cooperate with these agencies, and let them do their job instead of what amounts to a form of vigilantism. Surely you're aware of how damaging posts like this on social media can be? Once something is on the internet it's there forever.

Which brings me to my second question - I see the police have been sufficiently concerned about the furore and aggression your post has caused to post a statement under this thread regarding the incident, yet your headline "Baby abandoned at KFC!" With accompanying screenshot of the post describing that person's perceived version of events remains. Why? The statement released by police contradicts the OP's claim that "the women left the baby outside the door, got in the car and tried to drive off and people stopped them". (I realise that isn't an exact quote, I'm paraphrasing here).
The longer this misleading information of questionable validity remains up, the further the flames of dissent will spread and all the while it is manipulating public opinion and demonising this mother before she has even had a chance to go through due process. Whatever did or didn't happen and whomever is at fault, is not everyone entitled to due process? An individual charged with a crime gets due process, and publicly released unsubstantiated information about the case before it goes to trial is minimised as much as possible to avoid prematurely influencing the public (who could possibly become jurors) - so why is an individual who hasn't yet been charged with any offence been subjected to this?
Whatever your personal opinion on whether she is guilty or innocent or who is at fault, it is not fair to her or to her friends, whanau and community to leave a post like this up unedited.
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  Gena Shaw Jayden Langley get legal help sue these people block there page coz its all just negative nd its just Going to get to you nd ull get stressed nd emotional nd it can cause u comiting suicide dnt let them judge u nd your family do what's right for the child you know the full story but these pricks dnt give a shizzz bout anything they just good at gossiping . what happen was wrong you know wat to do get them help . f*** what everybody else says do wats best for you and your fams ;) dnt justify your family to nobody. Wat they did was stupid but I wouldn't be Jere judging you if you need help I'm here if you need advice.

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  STOP Death and Abuse of our Children WE at the NARK Community do not judge the family for the actions of Rennae We have made that clear in previous posts. Karen has spoken to our founder and given her facts. Rennae is completely at fault for her own actions and we believe that support and supportive people around Rennae to get her help is greatly needed.

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  Tiana Cherish Wtf did you hear about this Shianne Kelly Shannara Orchard

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  Shianne Kelly Yea I did.

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  STOP Death and Abuse of our Children Hi Shannara Orchard because of the strong settings on this page it automatically hides comments when Swear words are used, If you want you can edit so that they read F***k , that way comment to be seen by others. Thanks - Admin

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  Tiana Cherish Yeah Shannara edit your comment man

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  Shannara Orchard Opps sorry lol. Where was this?

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  Inger Kite Is this true? Verified?

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  STOP Death and Abuse of our Children Yes this is a confirmed incident I have spoken to Restaurant and Police will be following up with Cyfs in the morning

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  Debbie Peebles ????? wat are ur thoughts............

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  STOP Death and Abuse of our Children Personally I feel that a social worker on crisis line should have been physically involved to assess the risk to the baby

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  Rhiannon Victoria Wait, so we are flinging accusations around now based on what some random person wrote on fb??? seriously?

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  Shaze Mear my thoughts exactly..sounds rather far-fetched. could be true, but alot of what is said on facebook is bull

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  Nicola Hanna Well lets say it is true....I still don't think she should have got her baby back without a psych evaluation and/or cyfs being involved .It is highly unlikely you would forget you have a 7 month old baby with you .But if she did "forget" she may have depression or drug dependency issues she needs help with .

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  Michaela Prebble-Morrell This is tru alright my niece was the 1 who grabbed the baby

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  STOP Death and Abuse of our Children Hi there although it started as a facebook status and I was informed by a witness this is a confirmed incident. Police and Restaurant Brands general manager are all aware of incident I will follow up with CYFs team in morning

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  Jayden Langley Some truth to this story but not all that stated is correct. Some words have been twisted as usual

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  STOP Death and Abuse of our Children That can happen as witnesses will se it one way and others who were not here will see it another - Cherie

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  Waha Rota how long was the baby left there before police found the mum?

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  STOP Death and Abuse of our Children Patrons and staff ran after the mother and stopped her from leaving Staff even fed her before Police arrived

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  STOP Death and Abuse of our Children Just an update I have spoken to Restaurant Brands General Manager to thank staff for their calm thinking and keeping baby safe and warm I have also spoken to Police and am awaiting a response from Senior Sergeant. I will follow up with Child Youth and Family tommorrow

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  STOP Death and Abuse of our Children Hi all Cherie here -I have spoken with CYFs crisis team in Hastings and they are treating it as Urgent Priority, They are looking at what went wrong with Police in this incident and the Constable should be held accountable for not following through on the mandate to contact CYFs social worker. This mandate is well known by Police

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  Shayna Sullivan What omg did this lady really forget she has a 7month old baby how can someone forget something so precious...why didn't those with her get bubs something is not right and why wasn't cyfs involved? Not that they would do much anyway (speaking from a person experience) bit come on system sort it out I would hate to see this little innocent child be another victim statistic of neglect/abuse! These stories break my heart :(

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  Gena Shaw Report the post so that it can be taken down .Save everything that is on here print it out as evidence . jayden Langley I know how you feel. I'll give you all the advice to sue them nd the media . nd will get help for your sister . judging motherf****

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  Jayden Langley Thanks I give up anyway trying. No matter how hard I try they will just believe what's on here. I'm getting more stressed out with the SHIT that's on here. I may not have been there but I know more of what's really going on and what happened that day than the actual "Witnesses" that were there.

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  STOP Death and Abuse of our Children I would also like to note that the babys grandmother in this incident (as confirmed by the family members of this Mum and Baby) was also being abused and threatened by the Mum of baby and could not physically intervene. I pass no judgement my main concern is the welfare of baby - Cherie

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  Talia Chadwick Wholey Moley...hope the baby is ok...

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  STOP Death and Abuse of our Children Security Camera Footage has been actioned for collection for Police and Media

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  Antonia J Trail Very true... sad for the baby. I cant comprehend how she done this...

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  Haylee Powell Don't give it back aaaargh, so sad.

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  Gena Shaw Its good you have concern but wat if the mother killed her safe over this. How would that make u feel do u even think about how it will feel for the child to have no mother . gosh just delete the post . everybody got a learn from there mistakes what a life you have going on Facebook judging mothers nd sharing it for the world to see. Your foundation should be ashamed !! You just making it worst hope u get sued nd the stupid witnesses thinking use are perfect going over board . who the hell contacts Facebook idiots

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  Christina Turner Why do i get the feeling there will be the excuse of the Father was meant to meet them there or would "only be a few minutes" and they was why the panic of "don't take my baby". a lot of shared custody agreements are set for to meet in a public place sort of thing, some parents get lazy and inpatient and instead of waiting leave. Still wrong but does happen way too often

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  Jayden Langley Nope your wrong

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  Zoe Wilson Let's hope that wee baby isn't the next one with life threatening injuries. It may have been a cry for help that was dealt with the wrong way!

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  Anthea Toheriri Shelly Bartlett

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  Shylo Butler They shouldn't of given the baby back at all. The b*tch doesn't deserve to have a child, whether or not she was stressed out!!

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  Antonia J Trail Sad ...

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  Julie Thompson I agree, this is self righteous cyber bullying. Delete this post because it is hurting a young woman's reputation and causing harm. If it is in the hands of qualified people then why keep it in social media? There's only one reason to keep it here and that is to cause shame, increase exposure and to isolate her.

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  Gena Shaw Block me from the post please its annoying now

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  Gena Shaw Sue them all copy nd save everything as evidence

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  Olivia Morrell Livvy N Bman

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  Maya Williams That's awful !! She obviously doesn't want the child. Next time instead of abandoning it in a public place where people will ensure it is looked after she'll just kill it to get rid of it !! How could they just give it back to her !?! :(

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  Joelene Matangi Shame on this so called mother. And so much for protecting our kids against abandoment/abuse

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  Mackylie Lewis-Te Houkamau Whose to say she wont try it again?! Poor baby.

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  Gena Shaw Y'all need to go pray for your sins . judging people like you god . gosh y'all need to stop net banging .

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  Alah RiiotmakerfLx Yes it has ^

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  Stacey Nuku Wat bu

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  Awhina Moa Turi Taurima Trevor Taurima

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  Michael Newton Kool Roxy ^^ .. so sad !

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  Shayleigh Hurunui Amesh-Rachel Taiapa-Hurunui

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  Cath Croston Well said Emma x x

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  Jamie Thompson Tiara Thompson

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  PatriciaAndemma Legge most definately should have involved cyfs

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  Julie Thompson Jason Thompson

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  Kloe HamlinOxox Baybee Stacey Nuku lol

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  Kloe HamlinOxox Not 4 you, So mind ya own

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  Kloe HamlinOxox Well ma LOL aint got nothin to do with your family bruh!! lolol

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  Kloe HamlinOxox Oh hell. They aint "getting dragged into this" They done did it

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  Amanda McDonough WWarrokbmkbbkuiyw

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