N.A.R.K "Falsely" Accused?

From the Voxy article, previously posted on this blog:

Voxy article, NARK and Ms Sweeney's response to the NZ Public

Also from the Voxy site:
Sunday, 4 March, 2012 - 18:17
NARK "Falsely" Accused
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Lets break this article down (This post will be a bit long):

..."Nark wishes to clarify that concerns about financial management of the group, soon to file for charitable status are unfounded. Rumors of scamming stem from teething problems within the group that came to a head with a walk out by one faction of volunteers but no monies are unaccounted for."....

 No proven "Evidence" given from NARK or Ms Cherie, to show that all NARK monies, had been accounted for.  Question's were put to Ms Sweeney: Why would NARK have teething problems?  What did NARK and Cherie mean by "Teething Problems"?. More so, Why did so many, give their resignations, and leave?. 
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From the article:

 ...Reimbursement had been sought for t-shirts allegedly ordered but no-one could produce so much as an invoice or receipt for said items...

Below is a letter Ms Cherie had sent to people from her personal page

(via Private FaceBook Message) 18 January 2012

 

Tena Koe (greetings to you)

It is with regret and humble apologies that i write to you with regard to NARK T-Shirts

that were pre-ordered by Katrina Crews.

I apologize for any miscommunication and or lack of response from Myself and the NARK Team

to the verbal agreement that was made between all parties of NARK providing you with a NARK Tshirt

To move forward and on behalf of NARK

I seek your continued support to respond to this email with an indication of the following

1. Have you received a Tshirt ?

2. Have you received a Refund?

3. Do you still want a TShirt?

4. Do you want a refund? ( if you can confirm your Name and Date of Deposit NARK will issue a refund to you).

Again as founding member and on behalf of The Working Party / Interim Board of NARK

I humbly apologize for any inconvenience and loss to you and ensure the damage caused

from this incident will be rectified.

Thank you.

Cherie Kurarangi Sweeney

NARK Founder

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The T- Shirt Debacle is still an ongoing issue, still no resolve to that issue as yet. 
We will post more about that, as it comes to hand. Strangely enough, Why wasn't Ms Cherie responding earlier, about people not receiving their T-Shirts? Where was she, when all this reached breaking point?  

From the article:

...."The Founder Mrs Sweeney says she couldn't find one shop carrying an order for Nark logo t-shirts after e-mailing all printers, so the request for "reimbursement" for alleged personal outgoings for t-shirts of which there was no proof of existence from the former Treasurer requesting recompense was denied by the Interim Board."......
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(Again we will update this issue, once we have collaborated all info and also we are still waiting on "receipts of payment". We will post once we get more info in on the T- Shirt issue.)

We also have Mrs Caro's and Katrina's Statements which, we will be posting later on.
 
From the article:


...."As was a volunteers request for some form of wage well before that was viable or NARK a registered entity. The former Treasurer's complaints to the Herald this past weekend are invalid - the Board exercised diligence in requiring accountability."....

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Again no proof as to if this "Volunteer" actually did want, a so called "wage" from NARK. The former NARK Treasurer, had justifiable concerns as to people not receiving, their paid for T-Shirts.
 The only person the Public knew about, who was wanting to be "paid" for what she (did/does) was in fact Ms Sweeney herself.  In fact in a lot of articles, she mentions, how she "struggles financially" and how "doing what she does....doesn't pay the bills" Here is an article from a Blog post:

The Nark , Waikato


..."Her goal is to make NARK a legal entity so she can make a living from it.

“I don’t want to make money off a child’s death, that’s not the point, but what I want to do is get paid for the good work I can do.”....

Question is: What work has Ms Sweeney actually done for our most vulnerable? Apart from Media interviews, Hui trips, Events, including political etc.... What child has directly benefited from the NARK cause?

From the article:

..."Nark acknowledges public concern over our Founders appeal on Facebook (reproduced in Trade Me by another well meaning person) to help her to prevent a mortgagee sale of her house, by gifting to her $2 - only if they could afford it. Her ability to meet payments was affected by the onset of epilepsy in August 2010, which wasn't stabilised until October."...     

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Links to the "Mortgage" Event Details:
"Haters" says Cherie Sweeney, because the Public are concerned, and wanting answers?

"Mortgage" Event Plea

Including the "Trademe" Plea and the post up of her donations received on that night.

From the article: 

...."Although the mortgage appeal was a personal matter whereby Cherie had requested help from "only my friends and family and no-one else" Mrs Sweeney regrets any negative fall out this may have had on the organization (which had no prior knowledge of her appeal). "I acted on a suggestion from the budget advisory service to ask for help, and was desperate to safe guard the future of my Whanau"....  
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Actually, the "Mortgage" Event, also showed up in Face Book profiles, that were subscribed to her, but had not  actually friended her personal Facebook Page. (She may not of realised that).

We never had proof of these "suggestions" although Ms Sweeney did give the details of who we should seek confirmation from on that. 

From the article:

..."NARK's Interim Board is dismayed that this matter has been jumped upon by an internet based gang to spearhead a campaign to smear this young role models good name, and to discredit the reputation of her fledgling organization - the Nation of Advocates for Rights of Kids (NARK). Inaccurate reports about NARK's finances are rife on the internet lately. The harassment has culminated in a particularly vicious and possibly defamatory blog write up by Ms Raue (Transparency NZ).The blog titled "nark-what-kind-of-organisation-is-this" is rich on casting rumor based aspersions. Ms Raue plays Judge, Jury and Executioner in publishing this rubbish; "if you question Ms Cherie Sweeney she responds not with answers, but with malicious lies. How interesting. This is starting to look like fraud, or the best case scenario - major incompetence? Cherie is a fraud? Cherie is trying to get her snout in the trough..." It disregards all the facts Mrs Sweeney and the Nark board have tirelessly supplied on demand."...
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Appalling! Ms Sweeney and NARK, referring to the concerned NZ public as "gang based" and spearheading Cherie and NARK. We were given no answers in the "Private Group" about this issue and we waited for two months for "evidenced explanations", but nothing forthcoming. We were also threatened with Defamation, if we took this to the media.

 We had no idea, about Cherie's colourful history, when this article came out, to the public.  In regards to her as a "young role model and good name" also (the public) "discrediting the NARK Org's reputation,"  we found that statement quite interesting.  Especially regarding, that the Founder Cherie and NARK, were both found to have many major inaccuracies.

Fact: Cherie has many names, also been current in the media, throughout the years. N.A.R.K Org, not a legalized charity. Monies have been mis-managed and some were put into the personal joint account of the Sweeney's. NARK is promoting being a "Charity Trust" which they aren't. What has NARK and Cherie actually done directly for a child or children who are, or have been abused?.

When our Face Book Page began, we had a request from a women, who had been concerned as to where her donations ended up.  Also she did not receive direct responses from N.A.R.K and Cherie about this issue.  She directed us to Ms Transparency NZ Katherine Raue, who has helped us greatly, with finding answers to this issue.  

 

Her Blog Link below:

Transparency NZ Katherine Raue

Along with many others, wanting "answered evidence" from Cherie and NARK, Ms Katherine herself had been bullied, threatened and her computer attacked.  (Ms Sweeney was also seen, posing as her husband, on his Profile Page: Wavve....on our page)

This is a copy of what Wavee Toa posted on our Facebook Page:

Wavee Kuri Toa: 

Didn't you already ring the charities commision kartherine Twice pretending to be two different people. they know you kath Your an idiot an a deviant you ought to jus get a life you are nutty .Living out of a backpackers your trying your hardest to desyroy our lives we ought too take a look at yours how sad we can see why your so Nasty. What a shame all the hate you must have I understand why your partner ran out on you. An why people walk up to you an spit in your face. Your a very sad an loney person who hasn't got any love in your life an we feel sorry for you because the Kama of what you are doing will come back on you no one else. Just you. Funny how you painted me up too be this bad person yet as we can see you have quite an extensive criminal history an your quite well known to the polce. 

Courts and mental health system. Its ok for you too publicly rubbish our lives. You best watch this spot I'm about to start publishing yours I'm sure everyone will be interested or some what amused as to who you really are abit of a court jester we may have to section 8 you after all this. Jus goes to show how easy it is for some menatally unbalanced individual can cause so much heartache an pain to someone like Cherie who's only intention was to try an stop our kids being killed kathrine Raue you are truely an Evil person an deserve all the misfortune you are receiving in your life.

 Everyone that knows or have had dealings with you have been calling us an its painted a sad picture of who you really are. We don't hate you Kathrine we feel sorry for you. We are not worried about all these lies you continue to weave about us. We are honest people an have nothing to fear from your base less accusations. But let's star to look at who is kathrine raue. Your life is more interesting then ours at least we are trying to help people. You just rubbish put down and annoy. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. (Cherie is really dopey sometimes lol) 

Ok Miss Transparency NZ Katherine Raue I will check in later hehe Oh I think she must of read the blog to come on and get silly lol Pfft if anything she should be thanking you for her new found fame lol She loves the limelight that one lol ;)

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Cherie Nark NZ (Show NZ the Money!)

Cherie, can you please use your real name when you post on here? Don't hide under your husbands profile please. That is extremely unprofessional. I know about her history thank you, and she is a strong activist against corruption, as we see with you and your org. I think you need to look at yourself, instead of continually pointing the finger at others for the extreme choices that you make. Own that please.

 Rest assured we stand by Katherine and will continue to let NZ know of your money making agendas off our most vulnerable in society. Now please answer the questions that NZ needs, on our notes as I have provided for your information, along with your evidence. We have posted large amounts of evidence but you however have not. Stop bullying those who are not afraid of you and who actually do the hard work and not take credit for others. Kia Ora Cherie.11 hours ago · Like

Cherie Nark NZ (Show NZ the Money!) P.S Please stop abusing and threatening people who are not afraid to speak up and reveal who and what you really are thankyou. 11 hours ago ·

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From the article:

....."As published by Stuff last week Mrs Sweeney has never had any of the Public's contributions to Nark in her personal account, nor did she ever make unauthorized use of it for issues unrelated to critical tasks for the running of the group. Nark funds were used judiciously by her with Board approval to attend one Hui with Dr Russell Wills for the consultation and Submission on the green paper and related community matters".....

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Her claim about monies "not" being put in her account, where untrue.  We see on this link, the joint account which had NARK monies deposited into the "Sweeney" Bank Account: 

On the "Haters" Post

This document was the only proof of what NARK monies had been spend on, also how much is in the "Nark Accounts".  No Transparent documentation (receipts, bank documents etc), to prove this of course. Just this typed up document, that was shown to "some" of the "Public".  

SPREAD SHEET OF NARK
FUND USAGE AND MONIES 

From the Article:

..."The interim board has seen no evidence of dishonest practices by Mrs Sweeney, and is concerned the witch hunt in motion could unfairly erode support, just as Nark adds finishing touches to a Constitution that will take the campaign to the next level and shortly enable Charities Commission registration. "The balance sheet balances, our income has not been large so any discrepancies would leap out but nothing does - there was no great t-shirt robbery" says Mrs Sweeney."...

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 With all this "Evidence" we found and the inconsistent, "unproven" answers, we were getting back from Cherie and NARK, we are certainly concerned at this issue.  All this talk of balance sheets and other (no proven documentation), is certainly a major worry. Also concerns about the current lifestyle of Ms Sweeney and her partner.

From the article:

...Regarding the non provision of 9 total t-shirt orders actually paid for by supporters out of a list of 29 interested parties, but not supplied with them (due to minimum order numbers for print runs being unmet), Mrs Sweeney personally saw to it that all buyers were offered and given refunds out of the $529 that others had collected once it was retrieved from volunteers personal accounts and put in Narks new CTU one. Accounts show this was sorted within about a month with four of the disappointed buyers up-taking the offer and the remainder leaving funds in as donations."...

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Public were given no "Evidence" as to how many people, did order and pay for their T-shirts also as to how much money was received.  The "New" NARK account, is quite interesting.  For an "Official" account, the charity must be registered, and Charity documentation including the deed etc, must be provided to the Bank. This leads one to think, Who's official name is on the NARK Account? and who is the signatory? Who has this access?

From the article:

...Katrina Crews, one former volunteer directly involved with the project, has publicly stated that "AT NO TIME did Cherie have access to those (t-shirt) funds donated to the nark interim account. She did not misuse those funds." (posted to Cherie Nark NZ Show Us the Money Facebook Page). There was no great t-shirt robbery, the Board can assure the Public....

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Katrina Crews Statement on this link:

Both from Katrina and Caro  

We were not just, concerned with the T- Shirt, money non-Transparent issue, but with ALL donated monies, including those that were Fund-raised for NARK.  Also, regarding the T-Shirt debacle, we are still currently waiting on Transparency on that issue.

From the article:

...To address many murmurings about Nark funds going into multiple accounts, the monies for these t-shirts were moved about a bit prior to refund, and placed in a couple of volunteers personal accounts who went ahead and set up temporary accounts without even being requested to do so, as different people took over the t-shirt project from one another, only because NARK had not evolved an organizational or Governance structure as quickly as the community had rallied to support it... 
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More info to come on this....

From the article:

.....It was not Mrs Sweeney who came up with several initial fundraising ideas nor who set up the Give a Little page,"I just accepted the help offered from all directions, and it has been a big learning curve". NARK had no official NZCU bank account at that time and things happened on an ad hoc informal basis, so naturally there were no monthly account statements or balance sheets collated as a matter of course early on.....

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This paragraph we found very interesting.  NARK claims that, Cherie didn't come up with the idea's of the NARK "Fundraiser Events".  Lets look at an article link, from the NZ Herald dated on the 11 August 2011.

Soft Toy Campaign

 

A mother wants a war memorial gesture to draw attention to often brutal deaths.

...A Ngaruawahia mother hopes soft toys can save lives in a unique national protest against child abuse.

Cherie Kurarangi Sweeney, a neighbour of 6-month-old Serenity Scott-Dinnington who died in April, is calling on all New Zealanders to lay soft toys at war memorials around the country on September 3 to remember children who have died from abuse.

"I want to bring New Zealanders together in response to the issues that are happening to our children," she said. "The only time I've ever seen New Zealand come together is for events like Anzac Day, where it's a natural response to soldiers who have gone off and fought a war for us. These children are suffering in their own homes here at home."..

NARK community support 9th Januray 2012

NARK community support 9th Januray 2012

Post and threads transcript from the Private Group

Anne Squires-Dorsey
We have all seen the state of the accounts as handed over 2 days ago by Ms Caro Cragg. I think, in fairness to her, and given the fact that her personal details were bandied about in here, the state of the accounts as they were when she took over in November should also be made public. After all, the majority of the monies were raised before she took over the position, and it would be enlightening to see how much money was raised, was deposited (and when it was deposited) and how it has been disbursed in recent months. Obviously, if the money raised was deposited in the bank account for NARK, a lot of money has been disbursed, as there was not much on deposit when Ms Cragg took over.

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Emma Hartley I notice in the North Waikato News that Cherie and her partner Mike 'invented' the "CONAN" the funds from the sale if these was to go to NARK .. how many have sold and where is the money from the sales? Also .. according to the media MUCH money was given in the early days by citizens in NZ to the cause, where is that money deposited and what has it been spent on

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Emma Hartley http://www.northwaikatonews.co.nz/default.aspx?iid=56963&startpage=page0000017 page 3

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Roberta Karangaroa Money spoken about has not been made as yet Emma this is indeed an invention from Mike and cherie as you have posted BUT this is a donation to nark when its is finalised ... good on you for doing research............. you will make a great marketer for the invention but lets allow mike and cherie to finaise the bssineess okay . good points raised good on you

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Anne Squires-Dorsey Totally as a matter of information, can someone please explain what this "invention" of 2 road-cones fastened together is for? Just interested :-)

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Roberta Karangaroa Invention around road safety Ann, nothing to do with NARK however the generous offer and as recorded in the waikato times Cherie and her partner wil donate to NARK, ....... this is a future plan

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Anne Squires-Dorsey Thanks, Roberta - can't read the article and just wondered what it was for :-)

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Roberta Karangaroa thats fine Ann .... its al about communication

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Cherie Nark NZ I have noticed people confuse donation with an owed amount I with my family are working on a personal venture which we hope to be able to support Nark with why dont people just email me to ask

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Cherie Nark NZ As stated in previous posts I have also prepared a financial summary but am waiting for more information to validate all amounts as should be expected I wait for documents to validate figures not hearsay

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Cherie Nark NZ Ann her personal details are not being bandieed as you suggest your accusations on my familoy however have been

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Cherie Nark NZ yet notone person has asked me ... weird

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Roberta Karangaroa Presummption appears to be my favoirite word today!!!!

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Anne Squires-Dorsey Your family's personal details were "bandied" about by Roberta, Cherie - perhaps you should go and read, then talk to her? As I recall, you were asked a couple of questions to try and clarify things, and responded by swearing ...

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Cherie Nark NZ i did not get asked

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Cherie Nark NZ I was told by a random not known personally to me that my husband was a sesx offendor VERY UNTRUE

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Roberta Karangaroa lol@ bandied love the new word wil remeber that one

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Roberta Karangaroa tike to korero Cherie

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Cherie Nark NZ lets repeat for those typos NOT A SEX OFFENDER

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Anne Squires-Dorsey It's always good to increase your vocabulary, Roberta ;-) Why don't you explain to Cherie how people got very confused by your "explications" of the circustances surrounding the resignations?

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Roberta Karangaroa agree Ann english language is GREAT and maori is my other language

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Cherie Nark NZ He was a youth offender if thats gonna scare anyone and it is because our family were so upset that this could be used against me they felt obliged to apologise to all of those who felt the need to judge

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Roberta Karangaroa Ann I have no need to esxplan any thing to cherie and r partner you see I know them on a personal leval unlike many in here so again i have no intention of feeding your playground of stiirring tonight I am far to busy for that sorryLOL god try though

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Roberta Karangaroa and for the record the background of cheries partner has nothing to so with you and or NARK as long as NARK is not place4d into disreput then there is no area of concerns thats said that goes for ANYONE involved with NARK,

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Anne Squires-Dorsey No, Cherie, it isn't going to offend anyone. People make mistakes as young 'uns. Roberta's "explainations", however, were vouched in such confused and confusing a style that no-one could make head nor tail of them. So stop trying to blame people for trying to figure things out (Especially as the truth appears to be nothing much at all)

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Cherie Nark NZ Roberta posted on behalf of our family and I have no issue with her post I feel that too many have an issue with her post and thats just an issue they have

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Cherie Nark NZ I cannot be resonsible for how others perceive me even when they are wrong and have the wrong people in mind

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Roberta Karangaroa But whaT I wil say is this while you continue to chase the witch hunt I can and wil stand uo and mihi to this man, he has been VERY supportive to cherie in this cause he has supported her financially in the background un noticed and consistant why you may ask????? not for personal gain but more so because he as cheries partner suppports the kaupapa ( Vision / Goals ) as we all do in here Ann

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Roberta Karangaroa Agree cherie therefore stop justifying this.......... to EVERYONE!!!! subject closed !

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Paul Anderson Roberta, let us go back to the accounts. From comments made by you a little way back, one of your board members, Jimmy Boswell was to deposit $3000, which belongs to NARK, to the NARK account by 3pm last Friday. According to the bank account as posted on here and subsequently taken down, but I still have a copy, only $1000 of that was deposited and his name appeared as reference. WHERE is the other $2000.

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Cherie Nark NZ Im sorry I just see people talking the wrong crap and I cant help it I feel personally aswerable and want to correct

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Roberta Karangaroa paul where is that post please can you put it up for me with thanks,

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Anne Squires-Dorsey Then please do so, and stop letting others speak for you, Cherie. You started this worthy cause, and I think people would like to see you yake control again.

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Roberta Karangaroa I dont recal posting anything about jimmy boswell in here paul however I wil stand corected if i have given lomg day and hour can you place it up please Paul Anderson

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Paul Anderson I have a copy of the bank account but I do not have a copy of your post. I am sure that if I go back through the older posts I could find your comment, that is if it has not been deleted like a lot of comments were. Now can you confirm what I am asking about the $2000 if not I shall consider going to the police and talk to them about misappropriation of monies.

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Cherie Nark NZ I have collated them

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Cherie Nark NZ I am in the process of working the right data into their fields

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Paul Anderson collated what?

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Cherie Nark NZ like income expenditure (sorry collated paperwork, a significant amount yhas peoples personal details and i wont do that again

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Anne Squires-Dorsey oh for goodness sake! Find a pro bono accountant to show you how to keep simple accounts, why don't you.

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Cherie Nark NZ I have all the Give a little site info and It all equals out but to make sure I have to make sure the work i have paperwork for each figure i resolve This is not an overnight process

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Paul Anderson I am not interested in personal details. So both you and Roberta stop ducking and diving and say where that money is. I am sure that everyone here would like to know. If Jimmy still has that money, why was it not deposited when asked for.

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Cherie Nark NZ so unless i can tidy those names off their statements I cannot back what im saying so i would be talking crap ok

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Roberta Karangaroa you have the right to go anywhere you like paul, However I am confident to say the police wil tell you there willb a process of responce so by all means do as you see ift ........ no hesistaion there however please be careful of slanderous remarks given this is a public area , and for the record jimy boswell has made a transfer from give a little to NARK as at last week however you appear to have more information than we have.... hum interesting yes if you feel mis appropriation has occurred without any firm facts then yes I agree go to police if this gives you an understanding of this process

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Roberta Karangaroa well done for speaking up Paul about time someone in here did !!! instead of presumming

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Paul Anderson Roberta, you gave that particular person a long time to pay that money. Has that money been paid and if not why not

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Cherie Nark NZ Fine to boast out why it was less of a hassle to work out money side now but without the payment advices and statements current Im not talking the right figures. I have to say kapai Paul Anderson

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Anne Squires-Dorsey LOL! ROFLMAO! Roberta, you are a master of twisting things :-)

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Roberta Karangaroa there seems to be an aweful of information in here that was PRIVY to HQ and that in itself is interesting indeed

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Cherie Nark NZ if you have seen Roberta twist like

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Roberta Karangaroa clearly its your intepretation Ann................. and we each have the right to comprehend as we see fit !!

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Anne Squires-Dorsey I guess the trouble is, when someone is putting a lot of stuff up on here in an attempt at obfuscation, they do forget what has been said ... :-)

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Paul Anderson What payments and advices, I don't believe that there are too many as Roberta stated that most cost have come out of your own pockets.

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Roberta Karangaroa LMFAO I am VERY CLEAR in my thinkig Ann ...... we arnt getting personal now are we ... consdering we have NEVER mjet i find that quite hillirious actually

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Roberta Karangaroa yes agree Paul and send to us your email and we wil ensure you are the first to cceiw accounts apart from in here of course .... no issues with accounts paul

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Anne Squires-Dorsey No, Roberta - I am not getting personal However, I do see how you might take it that way :-)

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Roberta Karangaroa hah pleas please Ann Lets agree that you willl NOT pressume to know how and what I comprehend please you are way out of line Ann

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Paul Anderson I will not put up my e.mail address here. Why will you not answer my simple questions? Why? Why? Why? Are you hiding something from us all as regards this money.

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Roberta Karangaroa Paul its more the reconciling then the spending this has NOT been done at ALL by anyone! so hopefully that wil give ou a better understanding of where we sit and time , cherie has done a mavellous job to date however we stil need to colate reconcile etc I am sure you know where I am coming from okay

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Anne Squires-Dorsey I have merely attepted to get some of the clarification that you (anD Debz, if I remember right) promised us. I'm sorry if you find that uncomfortable

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Roberta Karangaroa OH please at 11,18pM you are NOT serious that I will answer your querries !!! ve me a break !!!! why are you sooooooooo sure that there is a hidden agenda here !!

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Cherie Nark NZ and I think I am quite capable of accounts unless any of you wanna do my books? give me soooome credit

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Roberta Karangaroa I wonder if you all are going to be so up standing to apologies to this team for the bagering and abolute harrassment of us here

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Paul Anderson Roberta, I am tired just like you and I am now fed up with the crap you keep feeding me. Where is that $2000?

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Roberta Karangaroa actully i tell you all now this is enough !!! I will have my lawyer act on behalf of NARK first thing tomorrow morning this is absolute rubbish given the hour of the night !!

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Roberta Karangaroa you seenm to know the answerrs apul you tell me !!!!!!!!

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Paul Anderson OK you get your lawyer but also explain to your lawyer why that money has not been deposited in the NARK account.

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Roberta Karangaroa I sugest strongly that you allow this team to sort the required documentation before maing your accusations to this team and cherie .. seriously take head everyone

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Paul Anderson Where is that money? Why are you not answering direct when it was you who made the comment a few days ago.

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Roberta Karangaroa Paul i have been involved with NARK since Nov 2011, therefore I have taken on the role as a member of the interim working party / board therefore wil take all that this involves however I wil not toleraste your bulling and attackes on the interim team without factual information therefoee yes I wil be seeking leag advice on accusatuions made

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Cherie Nark NZ we have 3 Nark accounts paul thanx to people setting accounts up

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Roberta Karangaroa that is and is also a mess to srt paul

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Paul Anderson Okay, you have 3 NARK accounts, why were they not posted up the same time as Caro's statement to sow a truer state of NARK's accounts.

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Roberta Karangaroa
how about you think about coming on board with this team paul all the critisuim we have had to endue has certainly ben endless becuse people walked in mass of resignations however while I respect that I also have an expectation that members... wil give this team some respect of time given we all work ful ltime Paul, when information if finalised then yes ask and seek your answers this for me is best practice albiet if you dontSee more

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Roberta Karangaroa from where i sit I dont think people were aware of that fact paul until investigation took place

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Roberta Karangaroa how you all didnt ask any questions prior to this team leaves me wondering also so please dont shoot the people whom have given of there time to suport NARK

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Anne Squires-Dorsey What kind of Mickey Mouse organisation is this/ You cannot handle donations without keeping proper records - and that includes knowing how many accounts you have :-(

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Roberta Karangaroa How long you Been a member in here ??? with the skills i have seen you post why havent you put those skills out here for cherie to tap into .. quick to pass judgements people sad really

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Anne Squires-Dorsey As far as most of us have seen, Roberta, this has been a "closed shop".

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Roberta Karangaroa and in part I totally agree with you Ann, however when I and others before me came in to support I and I am sure others didnt realise how much of a shambles this actually was hence the length of time to set up structure

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Paul Anderson I am tired and I am going to go off now and get some sleep and also to consider what I need to do or think is best to do.

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Roberta Karangaroa from my point of view anyway Paul i think the issue has been no process and or structure and certainly no governance & management structure

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Roberta Karangaroa has it always been a closed shop Ann in your time as been a member of nark.............. opps or were you privy to more information than most, hum i wonder

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Roberta Karangaroa good night paul and thank you for the communications

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Roberta Karangaroa you dont sleep at night either ann?

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Anne Squires-Dorsey Me too, Paul and Roberta. And my name has an "e" at the end -:-)

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Roberta Karangaroa I have that problem when working

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Anne Squires-Dorsey ‎:-)

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Roberta Karangaroa ohh does it missed that one!!! arohamai

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Cherie Nark NZ hum if you wanna be involved in process :-) Anne I skipped the e coz it tagged you

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Anne Squires-Dorsey Isn't that a pain - sometimes I really dislike FB.

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Roberta Karangaroa oh Anne have you placed your hand up to support the team?? that so generous of you and the time we wil save with an experienced person would cut down our personal time thats GREAT! thank you

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Anne Squires-Dorsey No, I haven't, Roberta - and am exteremely unlikely to while this is such a shambles. In addition, i do a lot of travelling and often don't have access to the internet, so would be of no use to you. Sorry.

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Roberta Karangaroa
arohamai i must have presummed that, apologies, can understand that traveling does take up time I have experienced that same problem when travelling in my work and sometimes its great NOT to have internet so yes acknowledge your reasons BU...T to clearly say NARK is a shambles is and wil be the opinion of alot however a good shake up is good in any area of vounterary capacity dont you think reflection is great and hindsight with wisdom is even better ........... my thoughts anyway Anne Squires-DorseySee more

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Anne Squires-Dorsey I sincerely hope that NARK can survive this. It has so much potential for good. But at the moment ...

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Roberta Karangaroa
tut Tut Anne we wont presumme now wil we, I acknowledge there has ben a mess and please appreciate that not ony Caro Cragg started in NOV so did I, however In my short participation I have experienced that not all was well as could be Anne,... however with all the skill in the world there was no governance strcture hence cherie approaching me to support what happened before this time of me supporting I cant answer that however I AM in support now so where do we start>.................See more

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Roberta Karangaroa ops correction Caro was here as a member for some time prior to that date.

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Roberta Karangaroa arohamai we discussed that today when i called her ....... oh and by the way in case you didnt know but I am sure you did Caro accepted the genuine apology from the interim team of NARk

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Roberta Karangaroa which was great of her to do and I acknowledge this to her

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Roberta Karangaroa she has a great spirit Caro

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Cherie Nark NZ thats cool of her

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Roberta Karangaroa yes cherie it was very generous of Caro

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Roberta Karangaroa anne I have just read back though the post and clearly can I just let you know I am not uncomfortable at all with your queries LOL in actual fact why oh why would anyone get uncomfortable behind a computer thats a childish statement dont you think ............ actualy dont you all think

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Roberta Karangaroa if you knew me personally Anne you would know it takes an aweful lot to make me feel unconforatbale in actuall fact I have absolutely no hidden agenda i am an open book

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Roberta Karangaroa I work with all different types of people and no none of them make me feel uncomfortable

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Roberta Karangaroa I am well over that from my abuse. so please dont feel you do actually I thiank you for your stimulating post of discussion

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Roberta Karangaroa good to have that mental stimulation after working with trauma and abuse all day Anne as I am sure you wil understand again my thanks for your participation of the late hour of the night

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Roberta Karangaroa what do you do with your spare time Anne just as a matter of interest apart from net and sites to suport child abuse................... are you active with any local groups at all ? I understand you are a busy lady as well .. sometimes we forget to have that ME time do you agree..... inmy case my ME time is working however I am going to take a break over the weekend

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Laurie Ludlow I think its rather arrogant to assume or insinuate that Anne does nothing other than on the net. I also think that you are rather disrespectful to alot of members that have been here longer than you have Roberta, I happen to know that Anne (like myself and many others) were included here on day dot when this group was started, not just from November.

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Roberta Karangaroa
asumume lol again theres that presumption how do you read that I have assummed Hm Laurie Ludlow, In actuall fact I was genually trying to make conversation with Anne, and whilst you mention my arrival in Nov I can assure you I have been par...t of this kaupapa with cherie for alot longer furthermore laurie, its not about time and been here longer merely around support of many ........ Anne I eleive is a very busy women as she has communicated with me of tonight so why oh why or more so did you presumme i thought otherwse laurie??? ....... gee now who is asuming here!!See more

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Roberta Karangaroa
do think however think there is far to much of that going on in here and in actual fact can I suggest that everyone can be mindful of respect including myself when post are constantly placed up hunting for The firing squad with accusations ...and or as you have clearly defined arrogance and insinuations of many including myself / cherie Debz and Jimmy, like you we are here to support, and not to seek financial gain as cleary has been implied by many in this group...... sorry needed to correct postSee more

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Laurie Ludlow perhaps its how youre picked up then, as Ive seen you mention your arrival several times and there seems to be a whole lot of talking down by those whom have 'positions' to those of us whom support what this cause is meant to be about. That is an OBSERVATION not an assumption.

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Roberta Karangaroa
point taken laurie I am a straight up no nonsence person no doubts about that and sometimes people dont know how to comprehend this, however with that, those that take the time find me to be a very supportive and I have walked the 1,000 ni...les many times for people however thats an area i gave up on many years ago and in actual fact I dont take ownership of how people comprehend me today this is who I am and this is my make up sadly this wont change and as I respect who you are, therefore I have that expectation laurie, I do hear your pointSee more

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Pete George
 I haven't seen what went on last night - I thought things had settled down to people being reasonable so I had an early night - but I heard it has resulted in a fair amount of distress. More distress piled on top of what's happened over the last few days. Sadly that seems to be the aim of some people posting here.

Nark is supposed to be working against abuse, and I'd hope that everyone in this community could conduct themselves in here non-abusively. Unfortunately some have either posted here without considering their approach reasonably, or have chosen to deliberately harm Nark and to harm those who are left trying to sort out the problems.

Please wait for factual details - these are taking time to produce as they have to come from a variety of people who have also got other things to ...
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Lorna Waerea
Working with boards for the past 11 years, i am aware of the hard work that is done behinfd the scenes and from what i can see within the past 24 hours there has been progress that everyone has seen, by the looks of it there is still a long way to go but slowly wins the race. we all arent perfect and mistakes happen, what we need to do now is learn by the mistakes and move forward to providing a better organisation to help our children..because in the end the children are what is important.

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Phil Ryan Thats great Lorna but for so many to have decided to leave this group, the question that still hasnt been answered is why? what went on? why were the posts deleted? why were there personal attacks? and the questions go on they wont go away they need answered.

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Phil Ryan Oh and a professional Audit by a registered accountant as well, clears up once and for all any idea of in appropriate handling of funds

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Phil Ryan To have this done by any one other than an idependant proffessional would be wrong!!!!!

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Lorna Waerea going on experiences i have had, when someone resigns from a position or has a complaint then it is handle by mangement is that correct? and from then it is between management and the person who resigned or complained not anyone else? if im wrong then please correct me but im pretty damn sure that im correct.

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Lorna Waerea
the problem with internet is that there is soo many different stories and most of the time everyone has the stories wrong and not the straight facts...now im not saying things that have happened on here are all crap..im saying with soo many... peoples opinions it all gets muddled up and then it all be comes hear say. What im saying is let the interim board get on with thieir investigations and find out what has happened and how it can be rectified and if possible fixed or put procedures in place so it doesnt happen again.See more

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Lorna Waerea
Boards have the right to go into what you call "in commitee" for those that dont know what this is, its when only those that are on the board can be present and no one else..what is said in "in committee" is confidentual and not for everyon...e to know as its deals with personal issues or dealing with employees or employers. the point im making is ..resingations can be dealt with in "in commitee" and all the board has to say to the public or other eployers is that the resignation has been accepted and we wish so and so the best in the future. ITs not for every Jo blog to know.See more

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Angie Rogerson I think the number one thing people want to insure is transparency. It is one reason why so many departments etc have an independent or as close to independent, complaints process and investigation team. I am not saying the board will attempt to be anything but honest but self auditing of accounts, actions and behaviours can come with its ow.

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Lorna Waerea
‎Angie Rogerson...i totally agree with your post and maybe the problem also was inexperience within the structure itself at first. Everything happens for a reason and i believe all of this is a learning curve for everyone. IF this is going to be succesful then people with experience need to be put on the interim board and from the posts i have seen from Roberta Karangaroa, as interim chairperson..things are starting and will change for the better and nothing like this will happen again.

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